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7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« on: June 27, 2010, 11:46:19 PM »

Disc 1: 1996-2000
01) Freedom Pt. 2 (Nor Cease Thou Never Now 7″)
02) Soul(Nor Cease Thou Never Now 7″)
03) Waltham- Simply Unite The Name (One Pronunciation Of Glory 7″)
04) Napolean- How We Have Ranged (One Pronunciation Of Glory 7″)
05) Nay Tis Not Death (Songs: Ohia & Appendix Out Split 7″)
06) There Will Be Distance (Our Golden Ratio EP)
07) There Are No Claims On You (Our Golden Ratio EP)
08) It’s Your Win Again (Our Golden Ratio EP)
09) When Your Love Has Gone (Our Golden Ratio EP)
10) How To Be Perfect Men (Songs: Ohia &  Rex Split 7″)
11) 7th Street Wonderland (Western Vinyl 7″)
12) Darling You Are… (Western Vinyl 7″)
13) Journey On (Songs: Ohia & Oneida Split 7″)
14) The Green Mossy Banks of the Lea (Molina & Roberts 7″)
15) Ten Thousand Miles (Molina & Roberts 7″)
16) Fade Street (Songs: Ohia & Glen Hansard Split 7″)

Disc 2: 2001-2009
01) Howler (Howler EP)
02) Lioness [alt. version] (Songs: Ohia & Scout Niblett Split 7″)
03) Untitled (Travels In Constants EP)
04) The Gray Tower (The Grey Tower 7″)
05) Black Link To Fire Link (The Grey Tower 7″)
06) Be Your Own Guide Translation (Songs: Ohia & My Morning Jacket Split EP)
07) Keep It Steady (Keep It Steady 7″)
08) United Or Lost Alone (Keep It Steady 7″)
09) No Moon On The Water (No Moon On The Water 7″)
10) In The Human World (No Moon On The Water 7″)
11) It’s Made Me Cry (It’s Made Me Cry 7″)
12) Rock Of Ages (It’s Made Me Cry 7″)
13) The Compass, The Candle, The Bell (It’s Made Me Cry 7″)
14) Protection Spell (It’s Made Me Cry 7″)
15) Rider. Shadow. Wolf. (Rider. Shadow. Wolf. 7″)
16) Josephine [alt. version] (Rider. Shadow. Wolf. 7″)

Disc 3: Daytrotter Session [Bonus Disc]

01) Little Sad Eyes
02) Arrow In The Gale/Josephine
03) Trouble In Mind
04) Lawyers, Guns And Money
05) The Dark Don't Hide It
06) Devil Wings
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Re: 7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 12:04:54 AM »

fuck yeah..

fact checkin cuz, tell us what's missing
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Re: 7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 04:24:39 AM »

Exactly.  I e-mailed that to Secretly Canadian.  Maybe if all of the folks on the MECo website were to do the same they might consider doing something of this nature.  I don't know what legal road blocks might stand in the way consideriing that there would be several different record labels involved (some of which are defunct now).  I have Jason enitre catalog, but I have almost none of these tracks, except for the "It Made Me Cry" tracks.

As far as the entirity of the list, I compiled it from the "Discography" section on the site.  If I have missed something please do post it.  I didn't include a couple of thing like the "Hecla & Griper" EP and a few other things because they are fairly available on CD.
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Re: 7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 08:18:39 AM »

That would be a great comp! A COMPLETE box would look something like this:

Disc 1: 1995-1998
01) Boys [Wingnut FLEXI]
02) Freedom Pt. 2 [Nor Cease Thou Never Now 7″]
03) Soul [Nor Cease Thou Never Now 7″]
04) Waltham- Simply Unite The Name [One Pronunciation Of Glory 7″]
05) Napoleon- How We Have Ranged [One Pronunciation Of Glory 7″]
06) Impulse (Live 12/02/97) [All Prayer Is Good TAPE]
07) 45 Degrees (Live 12/02/97) [All Prayer Is Good TAPE]
08) Napoleon (Live 12/02/97) [All Prayer Is Good TAPE]
09) Conscript Fathers (Live 12/02/97) [All Prayer Is Good TAPE]
10) For The Neighbors Of Our Age [Sounds For The Geographically Challenged CD]
11) Trans Am [Rebound E.P. Volume #2 7"]
12) For You [Songs: Ohia LP Vinyl Only Track]
13) Champion (Demo) [The Mechanic Compilation TAPE]
14) To The Neighbors Of Our Age (Live 19/08/97) [The Mechanic Compilation TAPE]
15) Rich Kids (Live 19/08/97) [The Mechanic Compilation TAPE]

Disc 2: 1998-1999
01) Still Around [Songs From The Loosing End LP]
02) Nay Tis Not Death [Songs: Ohia & Appendix Out Split 7″]
03) Vanquisher [Hayfever Compilation #5 7"]
04) Sin & Death [Zum Audio Vol. 2 CD]
05) There Will Be Distance [Our Golden Ratio EP]
06) There Are No Claims On You [Our Golden Ratio EP]
07) It’s Your Win Again [Our Golden Ratio EP]
08) When Your Love Has Gone [Our Golden Ratio EP]
09) Badass (Live) [VPRO's De Avonden Crossing Border 2CD]
10) From The Heart  [VPRO's De Avonden Crossing Border 2CD]
11) Promise Not To Quit  [VPRO's De Avonden Crossing Border 2CD]
12) How To Be Perfect Men [Songs: Ohia &  Rex Split 7″ ]
13) 7th Street Wonderland [Western Vinyl 7″]
14) Darling You Are… [Western Vinyl 7″ ]
15) Journey On [Songs: Ohia & Oneida Split 7″]

Disc 3: 2000-2001
01) Calling Bird [The Unaccompanied Voice: An A Capella Compilation CD]
02) Untitled #1 [Eye Of The Beholder One CD]
03) The Green Mossy Banks of the Lea [Molina & Roberts 7″]
04) Ten Thousand Miles [Molina & Roberts 7″]
05) Fade Street [Songs: Ohia & Glen Hansard Split 7″]
06) Howler [Howler EP]
07) Lioness [alt. version] [Songs: Ohia & Scout Niblett Split 7″]
08) Untitled [Travels In Constants EP]
09) Sweet Release [Burlap Palace: A Tribute To The Muscle Shoals Sounds CD]
10) Untitled #2 [Comes With A Smiles Vol. 4 CD]

Disc 4: 2002-2003
01) The Gray Tower [The Grey Tower 7″]
02) Black Link To Fire Link [The Grey Tower 7″]
03) Be Your Own Guide Translation [Songs: Ohia & My Morning Jacket Split EP]
04) Keep It Steady [Keep It Steady 7″]
05) United Or Lost Alone [Keep It Steady 7″]
06) The Long Dark Blues (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
07) Just Be Simple (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
08) The Old Black Hen (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
09) I Made The Change (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
10) Peoria Lunchbox Blues (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
11) Whip-Poor-Will (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
12) The Big Game Is Every Night (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
13) Hold On Magnolia (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]
14) You Can't Save Everything (Demo) [Magnolia Electric Co. Bonus CD]

Disc 5: 2003-2007
01) The Big Game Is Every Night [Magnolia Electric Co. CD Japanese Bonus Track]
02) No Moon On The Water [No Moon On The Water 7″]
03) In The Human World [No Moon On The Water 7″]
04) Down The Wrong Road Both Ways [Isn't It Romantic CD]
05) Coxcomb Red (Remix) [The Joe Beats Experiment Presents Indie Rock Blues Promo CD]
06) Down The Wrong Road Both Ways (Live In Greensboro 2005) [WUAG Presents: 18 Watts Are Better Then None 2CD]
07) The Last Bandit [SC100 CD]
08) Only When The Rain Comes [SC100 Bonus mp3]
09) Leave The City (Solo Live In-Studio) [Live At WVFS CD]
10) One Thin Dime [Sojourner iTunes Bonus Track]
11) Lonesome Valley (Echo Park Full Band Demo) [Sojourner iTunes Bonus Track]
12) Montgomery (Echo Park Full Band Demo) [Sojourner eMusic Bonus Track]

Disc 6: 2009-2010
01) It’s Made Me Cry [It’s Made Me Cry 7″]
02) Rock Of Ages [It’s Made Me Cry 7″]
03) The Compass, The Candle, The Bell [It’s Made Me Cry 7″]
04) Protection Spell [It’s Made Me Cry 7″]
05) O Punishment [Josephine iTunes Bonus Track]
06) God's Penny [Josephine iTunes Bonus Track]
07) Rider. Shadow. Wolf. [Josephine iTunes Bonus Track]
08) This House [Josephine iTunes Bonus Track]
09) Josephine [alt. version] [Rider. Shadow. Wolf. 7″]
10) Rider. Shadow. Wolf (Live In Bloomington) [It Happened Here LP]

E-mail THAT to Secretly Canadian. As far as I know, that's everything that has received some sort of official release. It'd be a hell of a set! Of course, it would never see the light of day in this format except as a fan-made compilation. For one thing, what would you call it? The Big 'Ol Box Of Molina? It's got solo stuff, Songs: Ohia stuff and Magnolia Electric Co. stuff on it. Still, there's plenty to pick from for an official comp. And an official comp would be a great excuse to release any of these to make it even MORE worthwhile (and because official comps tend to have exclusive tracks):

-- the "lost" In The Fishtank session for Konkurrent
-- the exclusive studio mixes from the Making Of Josephine
-- the (2? 3? 4?) unreleased Josephine session tracks
-- the tracks submitted for the Wood Diary film
-- any radio sessions such as the "Daytrotter" session listed above or the "No Love For Ned" session (hell, a Radio Sessions comp would be great on its own!)
-- the music for the Graveface Will Schaff book (unless it's still coming out)
-- anything else Jason thought might be worthy that he may have lying around (if he didn't burn it all, that is!)

But then there's this quite from Jason when asked about the Sojourner release by Pop Matters:

"I did it because I really, really didn’t want to have to go back and listen to and sequence all the old songs—it would take so much time and energy."

And I can't find it now but I thought there was a reference somewhere to Secretly Canadian wanting to do this sort of comp but Jason not being interested in it (above and beyond the Pop Matters quote)...

Anyway, it sure would be a great way to get all this music heard by the fans. I've tried hunting all this stuff down for about the past six years. Check my sig to see what I haven't been able to find/afford in that time. It ain't easy -- or cheap! Case in point: the Comes With A Smile CD just went for about $100 on eBay! Now how about if a 6-disc official box set cost that much? Would you buy it?...

Peace.
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Re: 7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 08:17:01 PM »

The response I received to my initial list from Secretly Canadian:

Hey ElRoi

Can you give me more information on this?

It looks great to me

jc


To me this sounds promising.  At least a little bit.  So, it is my belief that if we could get a couple of hundred other devoted Molina fans to e-mail SC about the possibility of such a project, who knows what might happen.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 12:45:17 PM »

@LunarTunes: William Schaff previewed a sample picture on his facebook page from the Graveface book that he had just received from them

Do you know if this is the same version as the one that accompanied the book "Isn't It Romantic:100 Love Poems By Younger American Poets"? The version from the book seems to be JMo solo on acoustic guitar.

 
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 12:46:46 PM »

oops...@LunarTunes again...

My question about the the song was in reference to this version:

Down The Wrong Road Both Ways (Live In Greensboro 2005) [WUAG Presents: 18 Watts Are Better Then None 2CD]
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 01:27:07 PM »

Ok, I should have done this before my earlier post(s) but here is the response that I received today from the nice folks at graveface:



Thanks for your interest!!

We're on our second graphic designer and things seem to be going well thus far.  They've got it about half-way done I'd say so hopefully this year sometime.  I shall not say for sure though as this has been very hard getting everything together in perfect harmony.  I will say though, the book is looking incredible and the Molina 10 inch is amazing.

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Re: 7" & EP Compilation 2 CD Box Set with "Daytrotter Session" Bonus Disc
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 03:14:33 PM »

Down The Wrong Road Both Ways (Live In Greensboro 2005) [WUAG Presents: 18 Watts Are Better Then None 2CD]

no, this is a live full-band version, the 'isn't it romantic' version is an acoustic studio version
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 05:27:59 AM »

@rdunn: Thanks for the Graveface info. That'll save me from checking their website every week for awhile...

And thanks to "noloveforned" for answering your other question...

Now let's hope someone at SC is paying attention to this thread...

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 11:48:13 AM »

I own all of this stuff. What I'm wondering is if anyone has a solid list of all of the unreleased songs that are available in FLAC-only (also, the "best" recording of each). I tried to do it a few years ago, but I just couldn't get through it all. Downloading 5-10 versions of a bunch of songs and comparing them just wore me down, so I'm hoping someone else actually completed a similar project. I don't usually bother with mp3s, so I guess a few of the songs may be eliminated by that, but the majority of tapers and traders deal in FLAC/SHN, anyway.

Anyone?
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 04:46:19 PM »

^I made just such a list for myself, intending to make a nice comp to share here. However, like you, I never got around to the comparing stage. So all I have is a list of songs, performances and whether the recording is SBD, AUD or a MATRIX. I do intend to finish the project one day but it'll take a fair bit of work -- it's around 45 songs! But, being far from an expert, I don't know if some of them got released under different titles. And some of them are just jams. I made my list based on setlists from the shows I have and etree. Funny thing is, this thread got me thinking about finishing the project...

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2010, 04:17:47 PM »

The tough part for any label or artist trying to cobble together a set of compilation tracks, 7", and other odds and ends: Making sure you have the masters. I'm sure that won't be much of a problem for SC but what about the early singles or other random tracks he recorded?
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2010, 07:31:44 PM »

Something that is sort of missing from your list, LunarTunes, is Pyrate II (Even Now) that was released as a free mp3 from Insound back in 2000 or so. I don't include this in mine because a) the source file is a 160 kbps mp3. As much as I hate iTunes/eMusic and their crappy lossy files, at least they are at a decent bit rate. And b) it sounds like there is something wrong with the file.

Am I totally crazy or is there something wrong? What is that incessant clicking throughout the song? It sounds like some kind of digital glitch. Also, the volume drops at 0:29 and changes again later on. I absolutely love the song and it sucks that this is the only version to be "released".

I'd be curious to see your list of the unreleased songs.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2010, 08:04:36 PM »

^I just posted my list as a new thread. Any help fixing or completing it would be greatly appreciated...

As for that mp3 you mention, I was unaware of it until now. I didn't start following Jason's musical path until 2003. So I missed out on that and haven't seen a reference to it anywhere. I'd love to hear it in all it's crappy bitrate, glitchy glory...

Peace.

EDIT: I just saw your thread from 2007 about this song. I'd somehow missed it! Interesting...
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